| This following letter demonstrates that Tom's
pastor, the individual that stands up even with the truth revealed and the fact of most
others having at least halting promotion. It is this man whom is one of the last
keeping Tom alive even in his fraud. From: "Johan van Zyl" Hi Fred ************** Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 9:50 PM -----Original Message----- ************************ ROCKS ANSWER TO FRED KELLY, with Kelly's original letter a...) Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 11:46 AM Thanks for your message which I retrieved today. Your questions about Tom Papania puzzle me somewhat, however rock : now, if you were NOT the most important alibi and link to TOM"S purported truth, then Mr. van Zyl's message might have you puzzeled,,, but, as the record now stands.. you are, in fact, the MOST IMPORTANT if ONLY link to Tom's past and future.. kelly: I have no knowledge of Tom's grandfather, nor do I want to have any. ROCK: again, now why would YOU say this?? This is the MOST important link of all.. are you not concerned that Tom may be lying?? even a little?? even if that untruth has wrecked the lives of OTHER Christians? Or, say, one whom is lost?? kelly: Tom's testimony gives glory to Jesus, whom I love and serve. That is what pleases me.
kelly: He came into my life as a gangster, rock: Now, GANGSTER is a BROAD term, if I and EVERYONE of the honored men and women on this list have heard Tom's testimomny, read it in fact, and read that Tom states he was "THIRD IN LINE to the TOP of the Gambino Organization in 1984 [the time he came to you] and that he owned a house, many business, had millions, had Coppalla FREED from the kidnappers, ordered "that an example be made of Joseph Cam and two others, whom may I say, were never harmed and are serving time for that very kidnapping, can you still say that Tom's Testimony glorifies God when it is untrue?? And, please, Pastor Kelly, you once said to me when Tom called me and I RECOMMENDED THAT I AND MY WIFE meet with TOM on HIS TURF in YOUR CHURCH and he gave me your number, that "you stood up for your flock no matter what", do you recall that?? In fact, was this NOT the stumbling block that led to this outcome?? and, when I informed you that I knew very little of Tom. but that I BELIEVED he had taken stories from my manuscript, you again brought up the same ending?? Sir, if Tom is lying about his background, and you have, as you have stated here, no knowlege of Tom's past, that is before 1984, then how can you say that his testimony GLORIFIES GOD?? What about my initial allegations?? That his story of the "taking down of the mafia joint" came from another source?? How come you did not take the time WITH AN OPEN MIND (WHICH I ASKED OF YOU) and been the arbitrator?? This is all I wanted?? kelly: got saved, rock: this was in the last part of 1984... kelly: went to jail for eleven months
kelly: was found innocent Rock: now, you were there. you are the ONLY person Tom has used to bolster
his story and his answers to my allegations.. you are it sir... now, he WAS found
innocent, but, he was found innocent because he denied he was a member.. and, not
just THEN, in 1987, but in his entirety... for he SAID: "I moved to Atlanat to
BREAK loose ties to the mob and START MY LIFE OVER" Sir, he DID say this.. no??
and he DID say that he had nothing to do with Joseph Cam's murder, the same Joseph
Cam he now STATES he gave INSTRUCTIONS to have "an example made of" [who was
murdered, by the way] ... and yet, on the stand he accused his accusers.. and
now gives glory to God for freeing him.. not Lucifer.. Sir, can YOU enlighten me?? I
am, after all, simply not understanding the Christian Principle of this?? And Sir,
if in fact Tom was SAVED IN YOUR PRESENCE , and ATTENDED YOUR CHURCH, And then
testified 3 years LATER and LIES on the stand.. (or telles the TRUTH by YOUR
standard) then how can you say he is a CHRISTIAN telling a TRUE STORY?? read this: Sir, I understand that Focus on the Family has stopped distributing the tapes and has withdrawn any referral information about his ministry to listeners. I am curious to know if they may have actually just been duped! I'm curious to know what evidence there is of collusion on their part that was deliberate to deceive. Thanks for letting me know now, you ARE aware that it WAS YOUR testimony ABOUT TOM that Dr. Dobson used when he said " There is CONTROVERSY surrounding Tom Papania, but we have checked him out, and he is who he says he is"? and, pastor, that CONTROVERSY had NOTHING to do with me or any knowlege of Tom! In fact, he began using ENTIRE PARAGRAPHS of my story and I did not discover this until AFTER the Dobson taping ... Look, if you had taken the time to hear me out, just maybe, just maybe, we would never had pressed our claim and then we and the world would not have discovered that Tom is a liar and has used your ENDORSEMENT to fool so many.. kelly: came to church, rock: Tom said that he was COMING TO YOUR Church since 1984 kelly: was discipled rock: Tom says he began telling his story [which, believe me, we have loads of proof he did not] and ministering and such in 1984?? kelly: delivered Rock: Pastor, maybe I am not getting this.. DELIVERED?? is this something we must do AFTER we are saved?? Just what do you mean by DELIVERED?? kelly: and began to work rock: what work is this?? for this would by in 1991... ??
rock: After HOW many years?? Now, this IS amazing, Tom just gave answers to my
attorneys several weeks ago.. he said he began his ministry in 1985? In fact, he
TOLD or alluded to this to RUREvents@aol.com
"Tom has been speaking for 14 years. " Now, let us see, this
is 1999, so, 1985?? Did Tom. under YOUR guidence, begin speaking, without any training, kelly: which has grown powerfully rock: There is no doubt, that in our, these end times, Tom's
"story" is FANTASTIC! But, sir, if this story is UNTRUE and contains
entire paragraphs from a book begun in 1986 , which it is and has, then what is your
message to our Youth ?? kelly: I am in regular contact with Tom, and pray for him daily. His is a great story that glorifies God, rock: Now, once more, the DIRECT PROOF based on THIS LETTER from YOU states
that you have NO knowlege of Tom's past, that is prior to 1984, correct? It also
states that YOU were there during his trial [ you were quoted kelly: and really that is all that I care about. rock: you know, here i am, trying to recliam a few simple stories that Tom
used, either by mistake or wantonly (though for the past year he has been advised of
this) , but used never the less. I never desired to dig into Tom's testimony, but,
statements exactely like this one has pushed me to prove more than I desired. There is NO
doubt that this entire episode has eroded Tom's credibility.When I CALLED YOU by way of
Tom giving me YOUR number to ask you to have an open mind and be the JUDGE , the
ARBITRATOR, giving YOU the power and believeing that this was the RIGHT thing to do, you
simply treated me as if I was a leper... how can you say YOU ONLY CARE ABOUT what
you have written,,,, not the TRUTH?? tom: "I MOVED TO ATLANTA TO BREAK LOOSE TIES, and GET MY LIFE TOGETHER!" The jury heard that, and heard YOUR TESTIMONY FOR TOM, yes...at the time,
your belief in Tom was CORRECT .. but now?? Sir, Tom's TESTIMONY in court was that HE DID
NOT BECOME A BODY GUARD FOR COPOLLA FOR THE GAMBINO FAMILY!!!! he came here, he said,
again, to BREAK LOOSE TIES and get HIS life together! I will say this sir, I am NOT teaming with Tom's ex wife as Tom stated.. and
that EVERYTHING in my BOOK is REAL and can be verified.. period.. including persons STILL
alive at 80- 93 years of age. Tom told my attorney this" how can Rock believe that we
would believe that he was locked up in a mental hospital at 11 and because of enemies of
his father, mobsters at that" Is Tom trying to be the expert about me in his
need to lie some more?? let me tell you something.. they are fact and we have
RECORDS!! and, was it NOT my father and my uncle carmine whom were hit is 1961?? On orders
from Genovese with Gambino's own people? Do you think my grandmother, who is 91, was not
who I say SHE WAS?? Listen, sir, you must step to the plate when you back TOM. and this is
WHAT you are doing.. you cannot simply say you did not know of Tom's background and
then say it is true.. and when you have had direct testimony witnessed by YOU and it is
TOTALLY opposite from his witness today.. what of that?? are you saying he lied on the
stand and his testimony today is true? are you?? Are you saying tom weas saved in
1984.. then the trial 86-87 (where he was visited again and saved again?) then
was saved again after.. and discipled and then worked and then began his
ministry.. and now, yes, now is telling the truth?? That it took seven years after he was
saved to admit the truth?? and, if this is correct, then why is this testimony still
riddled with holes.. like the third in line?? the having and then giving after he was
saved when the truth is that Tom was broke when he came to you.. an OUTCAST from all he
once tried to be.. that he was a small time hood from staten island who was a wannbe who
was taken off Jilly's payroll and his rent shut off?? am i saying that Tom is
worthless, that these truths do not mean anything? NO! I am saying that he should NOT have
the backing of the CHURCH and have others spitting in my face for simply wanting what is
mine returned.. If TOM WOULD have TOLD his TRUE testimony it would have been great..
but, he seemed to have had to add some of everyone elses life to make Christians feel that
he was someone else.. someone that will move them MORE than YET, SIR,, you are now telling these fine people, these brothers and sisters in Christ, that you are not aware of TOM's LIFE BEFORE THE TRIAL in 1986/87, BEFORE HIS COMING TO YOU IN 1984! But that he is TRUTHFUL beyond anyones proof otherwise and that you will back the flock no matter what! and so sir, In Christ Jesus I come in witness and say, Brother, someone in your church has harmed me, I ask you to mediate and be he whom in Christ will make this right.. and you say.. no matter what... Kelly: who by the way also was saved way back then, and was baptised by Tom and me in the Atlanta Federal Prison. Carl is currently the chaplain's assistant in the federal instituion in Stewart, Florida. rock : And so, Carl Copolla [who TOM said to me was free??] is the Chaplain's assistant and so Tom is OKyDOy Kelly: I hope you will understand my love for Tom, << rock: Fred, let me say this.. it iS your love for TOM that may have blinded you to the truth.. for it makes not sense.. does it?? Here we have PROOF by your very hand that you were the one Tom came to in 84.. you were the one at the trial, have read what was sent to you, have heard the testimony at the trial in 86-87 you were the one Tom's wife came TO IN TEARS AND LEFT YOUR CHURCH in tears and was ostrisized you were the one who backed Tom's testimony, continues to do so, even though it COMPLETELY opposite then the one you heard in 87 .. and so sir, when I finally bring even more proof.. will you then say, "I LOVE TOM AND FORGIVE HIM?? OR WILL YOU SAY.. WELL, IT IS ok CAUSE HE IS SAVING SO MANY..." It is with great interest that i read the info on tom papania because he was my mother's boyfriend and husband from approx. 1982 to 1989. It does not surprise me that he has lifted the life story of another man, because if he were to tell his own it would have to include the years of mental and physical cruelty he inflicted on my mother and me while he was a deacon at Landmark Church in Peachtree Corners. One bit of information, though, is that the Pastor of our church when Tommy was in prison, and the one that testified at the trial (i think) was Fred Kelly, Not Jack Kelly. Jack is Fred's son, and i guess that he has taken over at Landmark. I can't believe that after all we went through with tommy that the church (landmark) will support him, especially when it is quite obvious that he is lying, and that his motives are questionable$$$$ When I read Tommy's testimony I couldn't believe what he was saying about having money and cars and an expensive house. My mother (she was on the cover of the AJC with Tommy when he was acquitted and even I got to testify at the trial) and I have disussed this, and while we know it is wrong to pray for the downfall of another human being, we both wish you luck in reclaiming what is yours- your personal history. If there is any way i can help, please let me know. Mrs. Tom Papania (she changed her name after the divorce) up to a year AFTER the trial called. Said Tom abused her and her Daugther! Said she brought it before Fred Kelley at Landmark Church but was rebuffed. She then seperated from Tom do to his lies and abuse. Said Tom is lying! She said, and I quote: "Call Tom, tell him you spoke to me, HE WILL TALK TO YOU! " -- "I cannot just sit here idly as Tom ruins your life and continues to con people..." ---" Tom is a PATHOLOGICAL liar..."
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